Optimizer choice matters for the emergence of Neural Collapse
Jim Zhao, Tin Sum Cheng, Wojciech Masarczyk, Aurelien Lucchi

TL;DR
This paper investigates how the choice of optimizer influences Neural Collapse (NC) in deep neural networks, introducing a new diagnostic metric and providing both theoretical and empirical evidence that optimizer type affects NC emergence.
Contribution
The study introduces NC0 as a new metric for analyzing NC, and demonstrates that optimizer type and weight decay coupling critically impact NC emergence, supported by theoretical proofs and extensive experiments.
Findings
NC cannot emerge under decoupled weight decay in adaptive optimizers
Different optimizers exhibit distinct NC0 dynamics
Momentum accelerates NC beyond loss convergence
Abstract
Neural Collapse (NC) refers to the emergence of highly symmetric geometric structures in the representations of deep neural networks during the terminal phase of training. Despite its prevalence, the theoretical understanding of NC remains limited. Existing analyses largely ignore the role of the optimizer, thereby suggesting that NC is universal across optimization methods. In this work, we challenge this assumption and demonstrate that the choice of optimizer plays a critical role in the emergence of NC. The phenomenon is typically quantified through NC metrics, which, however, are difficult to track and analyze theoretically. To overcome this limitation, we introduce a novel diagnostic metric, NC0, whose convergence to zero is a necessary condition for NC. Using NC0, we provide theoretical evidence that NC cannot emerge under decoupled weight decay in adaptive optimizers, as…
Peer Reviews
Decision·ICLR 2026 Poster
1. An actionable mechanism that practitioners can immediately test and reason about. 2. NC0 provides a tractable and provable indicator, enabling convergence and impossibility statements. 3. Value the importance of optimization algorithm choices in NC.
1. Modeling gap to real Adam/AdamW. The formal results use SignGD and unconstrained features as a proxy. While the qualitative match to Adam/AdamW is persuasive, the absence of finite-step analysis with (β₁, β₂, ε) leaves open whether corner-casescould break the claimed dynamics. 2. NC0 is necessary, not sufficient. It could happen that NC0→0 but full NC (NC1–NC3) can still fail. Without parallel theory for the other NC metrics, one could over-infer the presence or absence of collapse. 3. Exte
- This work investigates Neural Collapse from a novel perspective, supported by both experimentation and theoretical evidence. - It opens up for further discussion and deeper investigation in the field. - The work is clearly written. - The authors critically discuss their findings and limitations.
- Some plots are difficult to interpret due to overlapping lines and similar colors.
- S1: Both theoretical and empirical evidence presented in the paper is convincing (modulo a few caveats mentioned in the weaknesses). The paper makes it clear that the presented phenomenon is indeed happening. Some of the ablations in the appendix (for instance the one with 2000 training epochs) reassure me even more. - S2: The paper tackles an important topic of better understanding the conditions under which the neural collapse emerges. - S3: The paper is mostly well written and easy to fol
- W1: If I correctly understand the mathematical essence of the paper, it seems that authors are misinterpreting their results. To me, the main distinction should not be coupled vs. decoupled weight decay but rather first- vs. second-order optimizers. It seems that the crucial parameter that really determines the limiting behavior is not so much the implementation of the weight decay, but rather whether the gradient computation corresponds precisely to the original loss function and thus, whethe
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TopicsStochastic Gradient Optimization Techniques · Neural dynamics and brain function · Advanced Memory and Neural Computing
