A Hybrid Simulation of DNN-based Gray Box Models
Aayushya Agarwal, Yihan Ruan, Larry Pileggi

TL;DR
This paper introduces a hybrid simulation approach that integrates DNNs into numerical solvers for implicit gray box models, enhancing accuracy and efficiency in simulating large physical systems.
Contribution
It presents a novel hybrid simulation method that incorporates DNNs into the numerical solving process for implicit gray box models, enabling better modeling of coupled interactions.
Findings
Improved simulation accuracy over traditional physics-based methods
Reduced computational runtime for large-scale systems
Effective modeling of coupled physical interactions
Abstract
Simulation is vital for engineering disciplines, as it enables the prediction and design of physical systems. However, the computational challenges inherent to large-scale simulations often arise from complex device models featuring high degrees of nonlinearities or hidden physical behaviors not captured by first principles. Gray-box models combine deep neural networks (DNNs) with physics-based models to address the computational challenges in modeling physical systems. A well-crafted gray box model capitalizes on the interpretability and accuracy of a physical model while incorporating DNNs to capture hidden physical behaviors and mitigate computational load associated with highly nonlinear components. Previously, gray box models have been constructed by defining an explicit combination of physics-based and DNN models to represent the behavior of sub-systems; however this cannot…
Peer Reviews
Decision·ICLR 2025 Conference Desk Rejected Submission
- introduce hybrid simulation engine that integrate DNN into numerical methods to enable reusable and data-efficient learned modules. - hybrid method with more accuracy grounding - speed up simulation by model complex part with DNN
demonstrate on relative simple physics-based model, not sure how this work for more complex system with non-linear/complex physics-based simulator.
This paper presents an implicit hybrid model method for physics-based models and NN-based models. The NN-based models can help extract sensitivity terms and help with the convergence.
1. Although the motivation of this paper is good, it is hard to know whether the proposed method is effective in more general and challenging problems. Only the power system example is not sufficient. More challenging and 3D transient examples are needed. Strong and clear examples with enough evidence are required. 2. This paper claims to focus on large-scale systems, but there are no descriptions of the degrees of freedom of the demonstration example. 3. The literature review is not comprehens
* The gray box model successfully calculate both current values and sensitivities. * This approach provides simulation results with more realistic and feasible results that satisfy physical constraints.
* The experimental example is limited to a single 14-bus network. It would be beneficial to include more standard benchmarks used in previous literature. * The benchmark results are also limited, comparing only the PQ model, hybrid simulation, and ground truth. * This work does not provide an in-depth analysis of how the model scales with increasing network size or complexity.
The idea of using the new equation (equation 3) for grey box simulation is interesting and novel. The paper is well written and does not suffer from grammatical issues.
1. The motivation behind equation 3 is not clear. Why are the physical and the neural network equations being summed up? The physical equation calculates its own value as it is supposed to be the complete picture of the device/system, and the neural network equation also calculates its own value and is supposed to be a complete picture of the device/system. Previous work by Menesklou et al., "Grey box modeling of decanter centrifuges by coupling a numerical process model with a neural network,"
The paper addresses a relevant problem by aiming to balance computational efficiency with accurate modeling of complex physical systems.
1. Lack of Novelty. The proposed method lacks significant novelty, as leveraging deep learning models to accelerate or enhance simulations has been widely explored. Specifically, the use of DNNs for Jacobian matrix computation via PyTorch’s autograd is functional but does not represent a novel or impactful contribution relative to established techniques in the field. 2. Limited Comparison over Well-Established Techniques. The experimental analysis is limited primarily to power system simulations
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Taxonomy
TopicsSimulation Techniques and Applications
MethodsSparse Evolutionary Training
