Incompatible observables in classical physics: A closer look at measurement in Hamiltonian mechanics
David Theurel

TL;DR
This paper reveals that classical Hamiltonian physics exhibits a form of measurement incompatibility similar to quantum mechanics, challenging the notion that incompatibility is uniquely quantum and suggesting new perspectives on classical measurement and epistemology.
Contribution
It demonstrates a Heisenberg-like relation in classical physics involving Poisson brackets and introduces a classical analogue of quantum measurement models, showing incompatibility is not exclusive to quantum theory.
Findings
Classical measurements disturb non-Poisson-commuting observables
A finite apparatus-specific quantity q-bar plays a role similar to h-bar
Classical incompatibility can be modeled similarly to quantum measurement
Abstract
Quantum theory famously entails the existence of incompatible measurements; pairs of observables which cannot be simultaneously measured to arbitrary precision. Incompatibility is widely regarded to be a uniquely quantum phenomenon, linked to failure to commute of quantum operators. Even in the face of deep parallels between quantum commutators and classical Poisson brackets, no connection has been established between the Poisson algebra and any intrinsic limitations to classical measurement. Here I examine measurement in classical Hamiltonian physics as a process involving the joint evolution of an object-system and a finite-temperature measuring apparatus. Instead of the ideal measurement capable of extracting information without disturbing the system, I find a Heisenberg-like precision-disturbance relation: Measuring an observable leaves all Poisson-commuting observables undisturbed…
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Taxonomy
TopicsAdvanced Thermodynamics and Statistical Mechanics · Quantum Mechanics and Applications · Statistical Mechanics and Entropy
