Hypergraphs without exponents
Zolt\'an F\"uredi, D\'aniel Gerbner

TL;DR
This paper provides a concise proof that for certain hypergraphs with uniformity k≥5, the Turán function grows slower than any polynomial of degree k-1, showing non-polynomial behavior in extremal combinatorics.
Contribution
It extends and simplifies a previous result by demonstrating non-polynomial Turán functions for hypergraphs with k≥5 and conjectures similar behavior for k=3,4.
Findings
Existence of k-uniform hypergraphs without polynomial Turán functions for k≥5
Turán function exceeds n^{k-1-c} for any positive c
Provides a simplified proof of a known result from 1987
Abstract
Here we give a short, concise proof for the following result. There exists a -uniform hypergraph (for ) without exponent, i.e., when the Tur\'an function is not polynomial in . More precisely, we have but it exceeds for any positive for . This is an extension (and simplification) of a result of Frankl and the first author from 1987 where the case was proven. We conjecture that it is true for as well.
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Hypergraphs without exponents
Zoltán Füredi
MTA Rényi Alfréd Institute for Mathematics, PO Box 127, H-1364 Budapest, Hungary, and Department of Mathematics, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, IL 61801, USA.
and
Dániel Gerbner
MTA Rényi Alfréd Institute for Mathematics, PO Box 127, H-1364 Budapest, Hungary.
(Date: June 14, 2019.)
Abstract.
Here we give a short, concise proof for the following result. There exists a -uniform hypergraph (for ) without exponent, i.e., when the Turán function is not polynomial in . More precisely, we have but it exceeds for any positive for .
This is an extension (and simplification) of a result of Frankl and the first author from 1987 where the case was proven. We conjecture that it is true for as well.
Key words and phrases:
extremal hypergraph theory, Turán problem.
2010 Mathematics Subject Classification:
Primary 05D05, secondary 05C65, 05C35.
Research supported in part by the Hungarian National Research, Development and Innovation Office NKFIH grants K116769, KH130371 and by the Simons Foundation Collaboration Grant 317487.
Research supported in part by the János Bolyai Research Fellowship of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences and the National Research, Development and Innovation Office – NKFIH under the grants K 116769, KH 130371 and SNN 129364.
1. Notation, the Turán problem
We start with some standard notation. A -graph (or -uniform hypergraph) is a pair with a set of vertices, and a collection of -sets from , which are the hyperedges (or -edges) of . The -shadow, , is the family of -sets contained in the hyperedges of . So is the set of non-isolated vertices, and is a graph. We write for . Given a set and an integer , we write for the set of -sets of . When there is no confusion, we may also use ‘edge’ for ‘-edge’. The complete -graph on vertices is the -graph . Let denote the -uniform hypergraph consisting of two hyperedges sharing exactly vertices. The -graph is -partite if there exists a partition of such that for every edge and part we have . The complete -partite -graph has all of such edges, .
Given a family of -graphs , we say that a -graph is -free if it contains no member of as a subgraph. We write (or if we want to emphasize ) for the maximum number of -edges that can be present in an -vertex -free -graph. The function is referred to as the Turán number of . We leave out parentheses whenever it is possible, e.g., in case of we write instead of .
2. Rational exponents and non-polynomial Turán functions
Erdős and Simonovits (see [4, 6]) conjectured that for any rational there exists a graph with
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and conversely, for every graph we have
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for some rational . Bukh and Conlon [3] showed that the first conjecture holds if we can forbid finite families of graphs. For a single graph, it is still unknown.
For hypergraphs Frankl [9] showed that all rationals occur as exponents of for some and for some finite family of -uniform hypergrahs. Fitch [8] showed that for a fixed all rational numbers between and occur as exponents of for some family of -uniform hypergraphs.
We say that a function has no exponent if there is no real such that . In other words, the order of magintude of is not a polynomial.
Brown, Erdős, and Sós [2] proposed the following problem. Determine (or estimate) , i.e., the maximum number of edges in a -uniform, -vertex hypergraph in which no vertices span or more edges. This is a Turán type problem: Let be the family of -graphs, each member having edges and at most vertices, then .
Ruzsa and Szemerédi [25] showed that if a 3-uniform hypergraph does not contain three hyperedges on six vertices, then it has edges, and they also gave a construction with hyperedges. The assumption on the hypergraph is equivalent to forbidding the following two sub-hypergraphs (a pair covered twice) and (a linear triangle). They proved
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(For the definition of , see the paragraph containing (5.3) in Section 5). Thus they found a family of two hypergraphs such that not only its Turán number does not have a rational exponent, it does not have an exponent at all. This is the famous -theorem, is non-polynomial.
Erdős, Frankl, and Rödl [5] extended this to every proving but for all ( and are fixed, . The proof of the upper bound here and in (2.3) are based only on Szemerédi’s regularity lemma [27].
3. Single hypergraphs with no exponents
Answering a question of Erdős, a single 5-uniform hypergraph with no exponent was presented in [12]:
Theorem 3.1** (Frankl and Füredi [12]).**
Let . Then but for any .
One aim of this paper is to give a short proof for this result. The original proof heavily relied on the delta-system method, we can get rid of that. We also extend it for all . We conjecture that examples with no exponents should exist for and , too.
Definition 3.2**.**
Let us consider three disjoint sets of vertices , and . Let denote the -uniform hypergraph consisting of all the hyperedges of the form , for .
So and . To avoid trivialities we suppose that since is an empty hypergraph and has only one hyperedge. In this paper we study for every pair of values and , , and we either determine the order of magnitude or show that there is no exponent.
Note that (two -edges meeting in elements). The study of the Turán number of has been initiated by Erdős [4]. Frankl and Füredi [11] proved that for . This gives for and .
Our main result is the following theorem.
Theorem 3.3**.**
If and , then .
If and , then but for any .
Note that , so this Theorem is indeed an extension of Theorem 3.1. Since , we obviously have
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So to prove Theorem 3.3 we need to show that for as we have
(3.3.a) ,
(3.3.b) if ,
(3.3.c) if ,
(3.3.d) if , fixed.
We emphasize that to prove that has no exponent (for ), we only use the hypergraph removal lemma (Lemma 5.1) and our lower bound construction from Section 9.
Problem. Determine for .
The rest of the paper is organized as follows. In Section 4 we discuss a strongly related problem, in Sections 5 and 6 the necessary tools are presented, Section 7 contains the proof of the upper bounds (3.3.a) and (3.3.c), Section 8 is a simple construction to establish the lower bound (3.3.b), and our most interesting construction for the lower bound (3.3.d) is presented in Section 9. Finally, a simple proof for (3.3.d) is presented in Section 10 for the special case .
4. Principal families
An easy averaging argument shows that is nonincreasing and hence tends to a limit as . This limit, denoted by , is the Turán density of . The Turán (density) problem for -graphs is this: given a family , determine . This question for -graphs, i,e., for a family of ordinary graphs , has been completely answered by the Erdős-Stone-Simonovits Theorem, which states , where is the smallest chromatic number of graphs in . Hence
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Thus Turán density is principal among ordinary graphs.
By contrast very few Turán densities of -graphs are known (although Pikhurko [20] gave infinitely many values). Nonprincipality for -graphs was conjectured by Mubayi and Rödl [17], and first exhibited by Balogh [1]. Mubayi and Pikhurko [18] gave the first example of a nonprincipal pair of -graphs, i.e. a pair with . The simplest pair is due to Falgas-Ravry and Vaughan [7], who proved , where and . On the other hand there is a lower bound from [10], and in [15] it was proved that .
Equation (4.1) implies that, in case of ordinary graphs, if then always exists a such that
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When bipartite graphs are involved then such a strong principality does not hold. Erdős and Simonovits [6] proved that , on the other hand we have and (for ). So, instead of (4.2), Erdős and Simonovits [6] made the following compactness conjecture (in fact, we can call it weak principality), that any finite family of graphs (with ) contains a single graph such that
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This conjecture with the result of Bukh and Conlon (mentioned after (2.2)) would imply conjecture (2.1).
The upper bound in the Ruzsa-Szemerédi -theorem (i.e., , see (2.3)) shows that there is no compactness for hypergraphs. Indeed, the Turán number of is (Steiner triple systems are extremal) and (because the centered family does not contain linear triangles). Actually, it is known [12] that for , so both of these hypergraphs have quadratic Turán numbers.
5. Lemmas and tools
The following observation, due to Erdős and Kleitman, is one of the basic tools to determine the order of magnitude of the size of a -graph : Every -graph has a -partition of its vertices into almost equal parts \left(\bigl{\lvert}|P_{i}|-|P_{j}|\bigl{\rvert}\leq 1\right) such that for the -partite subhypergraph with , one has
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Suppose are integers. An -graph on vertices is called an -packing if holds for every , . The maximum of of such packings is denoted by . Since then , we have . It is known that when and are fixed and tends to infinity. (Even perfect packings, i.e., Steiner systems ’s, exist if some divisibility constraints hold and is sufficiently large.) We only use the following easy statement: If is fixed and then
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Let and be positive integers. A set of numbers is called -free if it does not contain distinct elements forming an arithmetic progression of length . As usual, let denote the maximum size of an -free sequence . The celebrated Szemerédi’s theorem [26] states that for a fixed as we have
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(The case was proved much earlier by K. F. Roth).
Let be an integer and be a prime, . We say that is -good if for any and the following equations hold:
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Here addition and multiplication are taken modulo . Let denote the size of the largest -good set. The following result is an easy extension of Behrend’s construction, see, e.g., Ruzsa [23, 24]: There is a such that
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We only need that if and are fixed and , then
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Note that a -good set cannot contain a (strictly increasing) arithmetic progression of length , so and by Roth’s theorem, see (5.3).
We will also use the so-called hypergraph removal lemma. It (together with other versions of hypergraph regularity) was developed by several groups of researchers, see [16, 19, 21, 22, 28].
Lemma 5.1** (Hypergraph Removal Lemma).**
For any and integers , there exist and an integer such that the following statement holds. Suppose is a -uniform hypergraph on vertices and is a -uniform hypergraph on vertices, such that contains at most copies of . Then one can delete at most hyperedges from such that the resulting hypergraph is -free.
6. Szemerédi’s by Frankl and Rödl
Recall that denotes the -uniform hypergraph consisting of two hyperedges sharing exactly vertices. Frankl and Rödl [13] generalized the lower bound of the celebrated -theorem (i.e., (2.3)) of Ruzsa and Szemerédi [25] as follows.
Theorem 6.1** ([13]).**
For any integer there exists a such that for all
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They conjectured and proved the case (the case is part of (2.3)). In order to prove they developed a hypergraph removal lemma for the 3-uniform case. They also described how the hypergraph removal lemma (Lemma 5.1) would imply the general upper bound . Since then Lemma 5.1 has been proved, we have the following result.
Corollary 6.2**.**
For any we have .
Note that Theorem 6.1 and Corollary 6.2 imply Szemerédi’s theorem: .
The upper bound in Corollary 6.2 supplies a non-compact pair for -graphs. The Turán number of is (see (5.2)) and (see [12] and [14]).
Since the above corollary plays such an important role in our main result, we include its few line proof for the sake of completeness.
Proof of Corollary 6.2. Let be a and -free -graph on vertices. We will give an upper bound on its size. By (5.1) we may suppose that is -partite with parts . Consider its shadow , it is a -uniform hypergraph. Since is -free, each is contained in a unique . We get . This already gives .
Every edge induces a complete subhypergraph in . We claim that these are the only cliques of size in . Consider a copy of in . Then for each . If for some then is the clique generated by . Otherwise, when for each , the hyperedges form a copy of . This contradiction implies that is indeed the edge-disjoint union of cliques induced by the edges of , and these are the only -cliques in .
Therefore, the number of copies of in is . Then by the hypergraph removal lemma (Lemma 5.1) there exists a subhypergraph , , so that meets every copy of in and . For such an we have , finishing the proof. ∎
7. Proof of Theorem 3.3, upper bounds
In this section we prove (3.3.a) and (3.3.c), the upper bounds for .
Let be a -free -graph on vertices. We will give an upper bound on . By (5.1) we may suppose that is -partite with parts . For a hyperedge , let denote the set of integers such that there is another hyperedge that differs from only in , . Note that because is -free.
By the pigeonhole principle there is a set such that there are at least hyperedges with . Let be the -graph of these edges, . Set , we have , .
Let be an edge of the complete -partite hypergraph with parts , i.e., and for each . ( might be the empty set). There are at most appropriate . Define as the link of in , i.e., it is an -graph with edges .
Observe first that is -free. Indeed, two hyperedges of sharing vertices would mean two hyperedges in sharing vertices such that their only difference is in a part not belonging to . So every -element set is contained in at most one hyperedge in , thus . Since , we obtained
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completing the proof of (3.3.a).
Finally, let us assume , i.e., . We claim that in this case is also -free. Indeed, if we add to the hyperedges of a copy of from , we obtain a in . Since contains a , this is a contradiction. Thus we have by Corollary 6.2. We complete the proof as in (7.1)
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For the case we actually proved that . This is by Corollary 6.2. Theorem 6.1 shows that this way the upper bound cannot be improved significantly, because . In Section 9 we will present the slightly weaker lower bound for .
8. Proof of Theorem 3.3, the polynomial range
In this section we prove the lower bound (3.3.b) by giving a construction.
Since , we have . Let and be two disjoint sets, and . Let be an -packing of maximum size, i.e., an -uniform hypergraph such that any two hyperedges share at most vertices. By (5.2) we have . Let be the complete -uniform hypergraph with vertex set . Finally, let be the -graph with vertex set having as hyperedges all the -sets that are unions of a hyperedge of and a hyperedge of . Then has hyperedges. We claim that is -free.
Assume, on the contrary, that there is a copy of in , . Note that and the symmetric differences are all distinct -element sets. Consider, first, the case when for some we have . Then all are identical. Indeed, if there exists an , then these two -sets have symmetric difference at least 4, so it should by exactly 4, and then and are identical 4-element sets, a contradiction. Then , a contradiction.
From now on, we may suppose that the -element sets are all distinct. Then, because we have that for all . Hence , a final contradiction. ∎
9. Proof of Theorem 3.3, a non-polynomial lower bound
In this section we prove the lower bound (3.3.d) by giving a construction. We will show that if , where and is a prime, then . As is monotone in and there is a prime between and , this and (5.4) give the desired bound for .
Let the vertex set consist of the pairs with and . Choose two integers and a -good set of size . Suppose that are distinct integers (i.e., a permutation of ). We define a -partite -graph on with parts . A -set is a hyperedge of if the following two equations hold.
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We have . Indeed, for any we can pick values arbitrarily, and since , the above two equations uniquely determine and .
Claim 9.1**.**
* is -free.*
Proof of Claim.
Suppose, on the contrary, that there is a copy of in , and let be the sets of vertices as in Definition 3.2. Without loss of generality we may assume that , (), and (). Then the constraints in the definition of imply the following equations.
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for some . Define and as and . We obtain
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and
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These imply
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Rearranging
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As is a -good set and , we have . Then (9.2) gives implying . Then (9.1) gives (for ), a contradiction. ∎
10. A lower bound for the case
In this section we present a simple construction implying the lower bound in (3.3.d) for the case . It gives , a stronger lower bound than the one in the previous section. The construction is similar to the one in Section 8.
Start with an -graph with a set of vertices and hyperedges that is both -free and -free. The existence of such hypergraphs was proved by Frankl and Rödl [13], see Theorem 6.1. Add a set of new vertices and take all -edges containing an -edge of and vertices from . This hypergraph has hyperedges.
We claim that is -free (). Suppose, on the contrary, that contains a copy of , and let , , and be the sets of vertices as in Definition 3.2. Since they both share at least one element with , say and . If is not in , then has less elements in than does. It is a contradiction as both and are hyperedges of . We obtained that implies .
If there exists a then also must belong to . Otherwise, , a contradiction. In this case and imply that shares elements with inside , which contradicts the -free property of .
Hence we may assume that each belongs to . Then , too, so . Then the -edges form a copy of in . This final contradiction completes the proof.
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