Subgroups of arbitrary even ordinary depth
Hayder Abbas Janabi, Thomas Breuer, Erzsebet Horvath

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This paper constructs specific examples of groups and subgroups demonstrating that even ordinary depth can be arbitrarily large, specifically for any positive integer n, resolving an open problem in group theory.
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It provides the first known examples of subgroups with arbitrary even ordinary depth, answering a longstanding open question.
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Existence of groups with subgroups of arbitrary even depth
Construction of examples for each positive integer n
Resolution of the open problem on large even ordinary depth
Abstract
We show that for each positive integer , there are a group and a subgroup such that the ordinary depth is . This solves the open problem posed by Lars Kadison whether even ordinary depth larger than can occur.
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Topicsgraph theory and CDMA systems · Rings, Modules, and Algebras · Finite Group Theory Research
Subgroups of arbitrary even ordinary depth
Hayder Abbas Janabi, Thomas Breuer, and Erzsébet Horváth
(June 16, 2020)
Abstract
We show that for each positive integer , there are a group and a subgroup such that the ordinary depth is . This solves the open problem posed by Lars Kadison whether even ordinary depth larger than can occur.
Mathematics Subject Classification (2010): primary 20C15; secondary 20B35, 05C12, 05C76.
Keywords: ordinary depth of a subgroup, distance of characters, Cartesian product of graphs, wreath product.
1 Introduction
The notion of depth was originally defined for von-Neumann algebras, see [8]. Later it was also defined for Hopf algebras, see [19]. For some recent results in this direction, see [10, 16, 9]. In [18] and later in [3], the depth of semisimple algebra inclusions was studied, by Burciu, Kadison and Külshammer. First results were considering the depth case, later it was generalized for arbitrary . In the case of group algebra inclusion it was shown that the depth is at most if and only if is normal in , see [18].
Now let us remind the reader to the notion of ordinary depth of a subgroup in the finite group . We say that the * depth of the group algebra inclusion * is if (-times ) is isomorphic to a direct summand of ( times ) as -bimodules (or equivalently as -bimodules) for some positive integer .
Furthermore, is said to have depth in if the same assertion holds for -bimodules. Finally has depth in if is isomorphic to a direct summand of as bimodules. The minimal depth of group algebra inclusion is called (minimal) ordinary depth of in , which we denote by . If one considers group algebras over a field of characterstic then one gets in a similar way the notion of modular depth and it does not depend on the field, only on the characteristic, as it is shown in [1, Remark 4.5] by Boltje, Danz and Külshammer.
The ordinary depth can be obtained from the so called inclusion or Frobenius matrix . If are all irreducible characters of and are all irreducible characters of , then . The ”powers” of are defined by and . The ordinary depth can be obtained as the smallest integer such that for some positive integer , where the inequality of matrices means that this inequality holds componentwise.
The results on characters in [3] help to determine . Two irreducible characters are called related, , if they are constituents of , for some . The distance is the smallest integer such that there is a chain of irreducible characters of such that . If there is no such chain then and if then the distance is zero. If is the set of irreducible constituents of then we set . We will use the following result from [3].
Theorem 1.1**.**
[3, Thm 3.6, Thm 3.10]
- (i)
Let . Then has ordinary depth in if and only if the distance between two irreducible characters of is at most .
- (ii)
Let . Then has ordinary depth in if and only if for all .
Thus we have the following.
Corollary 1.2**.**
Let be a subgroup of a finite group . The ordinary depth is the minimal possible positive integer which can be determined from the following upper bounds:
- (i)
For , if and only if the distance between two irreducible characters of is at most .
- (ii)
For , if and only if for all .
- (iii)
* if and only if is normal in ,*
- (iv)
* if and only if for all , see [2, Thm. 1.7 ].*
We will also use the following result from [3].
Theorem 1.3**.**
[3, Thm 6.9]** Suppose that is a subgroup of a finite group and is the intersection of conjugates of . Then . If additionally holds then .
In recent publications, several authors determined the ordinary depth of subgroups in some special series of groups, e.g. , Suzuki groups, Ree groups, symmetric and alternating groups, see [3], [5], [6], [13], [14]. In [4], twisted group algebra inclusions for symmetric and alternating groups are studied.
It is known that odd ordinary depth of a subgroup in a finite group can be arbitrarily large: It is shown in [3] that the depth of the symmetric group in is .
Lars Kadison posed the following open problem on his homepage, see [17]: Are there subgroups of ordinary depth where ?
If one looks at the results of the above papers or the calculations presented in [12], one has the impression that in most cases the depth of subgroups is odd. However still one can find examples of arbitrarily large even depth. In our examples wreath products will play an important role. There is another depth concept, the combinatorial depth, which is considered in several investigations, see e.g. [1], [13], [14]. In this short note we will always consider ordinary depth, so in the following depth will always mean ordinary depth.
The main result of this paper is the following.
Theorem 1.4**.**
There exists a series of groups and subgroups such that for every positive integer .
2 Constructing examples
Examples of subgroups of depth had been constructed earlier by the third author with the help of the GAP system [7], see [12]. Let us mention some of them:
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, and
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It was shown already in [3] that . The first author found with GAP that
. Continuing this process, we obtained that
and in general
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, ,
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, ,
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The idea of the proof is to use Thm. 1.3 to prove that . Then we show that the depth cannot be at most , since by Cor. 1.2 then the distance of any two characters of would be at most , however there are irreducible characters of of distance exactly . The proof is a rather complicated induction, see [15].
We wanted to simplify the construction. Our aim was also to construct as depth more even numbers. We can generalize the first two steps of the former construction in another way as follows:
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In general, we have that
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, ,
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Then we have that . The proof is again using Thm. 1.3 to prove that . If , then by Cor. 1.2 any two irreducible characters of have distance at most . However, one can show that there exist irreducible characters of of distance .
If we want to get every even number then we can use a modified construction. We may take the Klein four group instead of and get:
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In general, we have a series of groups and subgroups such that holds. The idea of the proof will be the same as before, for the inequality we will use again Thm. 1.3, and to prove that it cannot be a strict inequality, we find two irreducible characters of distance in . For that, we consider suitable characters of the base group of the wreath product and define a Cartesian product of graphs that encodes the relation .
3 Proof of Theorem 1.4
Let be the symmetric group on four points, and be its normal Klein four subgroup. Set , . Then , by Cor. 1.2. Define for
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Let denote the cyclic group of order . Then and
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Let , the largest normal subgroup of that is contained in . Then , and
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is an intersection of conjugates of , and Thm. 1.3 yields . Set
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Then .
The character tables of and are as follows, where the columns are indexed by the conjugacy classes of the elements , , , , , , .
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Set
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and
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Let be the undirected graph with vertex set and edge set , be the undirected graph with vertex set and edge set . For , let be the Cartesian product of and copies of , that is, has vertex set
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and there is an edge between and if and only if there is a (unique) such that for and and either or .
Lemma 3.1**.**
- (i)
, and mapping to defines a bijection from to .
- (ii)
For and , if and have a common constituent then .
- (iii)
Let , for , with . Then and have a common constituent if and only if there is an edge between and in , where and .
- (iv)
The distance of the vertices and of is .
- (v)
The distance of the characters and
* of is .*
- Proof.
Let , where , that is, is faithful and the other are not.
For part (i), has inertia subgroup inside . Hence by Clifford’s Theorem, see [11, Thm. 6.11], is irreducible. The irreducible constituents of the restriction are the conjugates of by , i. e., those characters where the components of are cyclically permuted. Thus each constituent has exactly one faithful component. Hence is the only constituent of that lies in . Thus we get an inverse to the map .
For part (ii), consider the restriction of the constituents of to . We get irreducible constituents where the first component is a nontrivial character of and all other components are non-faithful characters of , and irreducible constituents where the first component is the trivial character of and exactly one other component is faithful. Let have the property that and have a common irreducible constituent, which means that . If this constituent is of the first kind then inducing it to yields a character with first component and all other components non-faithful. If the common constituent is of the second kind then inducing it to yields a character with first component and exactly one other component faithful. (Here we used that , where , for , .)
In both cases, the irreducible constituents are cyclic shifts of characters in , thus inducing further from to yields characters all whose irreducible constituents lie in . Now note that is one of them.
For part (iii), note that there is an edge between and in if and only if and differ in exactly one component , , such that and have a common constituent. Let , and . Then contains as a constituent and all its cyclic shifts, contains as a constituent and all its cyclic shifts. When restricted further to the scalar product can be nonzero if and only if some of cyclic shifts of and some of cyclic shifts of have in the first component a restriction that have a common component and all other components are equal. But then they must be shifted in the same way, since otherwise the faithful components were in different place. Thus and differ in exactly one component , , such that and have a common constituent.
For part (iv), observe that any shortest path from to in replaces in each step exactly one by a .
For part (v), fix and let be a shortest path of related characters in , of length . This means that there are irreducible characters of such that and are constituents of , and are constituents of , for , and and are constituents of . By Frobenius reciprocity we have that . Since is a sum of characters in , we know that , and part (ii) implies that for all . Let be the unique character in with the property , for . By part (iii), and differ in at most one component. Now has components , and has components , thus holds. Conversely, any path of length between and in yields a path of related characters from to , of length , hence .
In order to prove that , it remains to show that holds. If , then by Cor. 1.2 (i) we have that every two irreducible characters of have distance at most . However, the characters and constructed in Lemma 3.1 have distance , which is a contradiction. So we are done.
Acknowledgments
The first author was supported by the Stipendium Hungaricum PhD fellowship at the Budapest University of Technology and Economics. The second author gratefully acknowledges support by the German Research Foundation (DFG) within the SFB-TRR 195 Symbolic Tools in Mathematics and their Applications. The third author was supported by the NKFI-Grants No. 115288 and 115799.
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