Elliptic Curves with Large Intersection of Projective Torsion Points
Fedor Bogomolov, Hang Fu

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This paper constructs pairs of elliptic curves over number fields that share a large number of projective torsion points, highlighting new intersections in their torsion structures.
Contribution
It introduces a method to explicitly construct elliptic curve pairs with significantly large intersections of their projective torsion points.
Findings
Pairs of elliptic curves with large torsion point intersections constructed
Demonstrates the existence of elliptic curves with unexpectedly large shared torsion structures
Provides explicit examples over number fields
Abstract
We construct pairs of elliptic curves over number fields with large intersection of projective torsion points.
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Elliptic Curves with Large Intersection
of Projective Torsion Points
Fedor Bogomolov Hang Fu
Abstract. We construct pairs of elliptic curves over number fields with large intersection of projective torsion points.
Keywords. Elliptic curves Torsion points Division polynomials Unlikely intersections
Mathematics Subject Classification. 14H52 14Q05
1 Introduction
Let be an elliptic curve over a number field,
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its -torsion subgroup,
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the collection of torsion points of order exactly ,
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the collection of all torsion points, and
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the standard double cover, identifying .
In [1], the authors considered intersections
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for distinct elliptic curves and . They observed the equivalence of conditions
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,
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, and
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and found pairs of elliptic curves failing these conditions but satisfying
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We view results of this type as instances of unlikely intersections, see, e.g., [7] for an extensive study of related problems. In this note, we provide some improvements of [1] and [3]:
Theorem 1**.**
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The proof will be given in Section 2.
In [3], the first author and Tschinkel studied intrinsic properties of subsets of generated by images of torsion points. Starting with distinct points , they defined as the smallest subset of such that if , then . They proved:
Theorem 2**.**
If , then is a field. Moreover, it is closed under taking square roots.
A shortened version of their proof can be found in [2]. In Section 3, we establish new properties of this construction.
2 Large Intersection
In [1], we considered torsion points of order and . Here, we will instead focus on torsion points of order and , where is a different prime number. The calculations below were performed with Mathematica 11.0 [6].
Proof of Theorem 1.
Consider the family
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which is a curve of genus with a unique singularity at , provided . Fix and . Recall that
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and that if , then . The nonsingular model of is
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where
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From the division polynomials [4, Chapter II; 5, Page 105, Exercise 3.7] of , we know that the third and seventh (modified) division polynomials of are
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Now we want to find and such that there exist
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In other words,
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Since is a quadratic polynomial in , any fixed such that and gives exactly two roots satisfying and . Since and are also two roots of , we need divides as polynomials in . By long division, this is equivalent to require both and , where is a polynomial of degree with terms, and is a polynomial of degree with terms. The resultant of and w.r.t. is
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whose roots are the -coordinates of their common points. The resultant of and w.r.t. is
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whose roots are the -coordinates of their common points. Here the cube power in the first resultant plays the crucial role. There are nontrivial -coordinates, and nontrivial -coordinates, hence there exists some that is shared by at least three common points . Thus we have
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so the supremum is at least . ∎
Remark 3*.*
The same phenomenon continues for larger primes , , and . To accelerate our computer-aided calculation, we note that and are essentially polynomials in and . When ,
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when ,
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when ,
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Here “a factor” always means an irreducible factor. From these facts, we note that for , , and , the resultant of and with respect to only involves factors of multiplicity and , the former has degree , while the latter suggests that as , there might be infinitely many pairs and with at least intersection points, and this record might not be broken by the current approach. Due to the computational limitation, we have no information for .
Remark 4*.*
Let
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denote Jordan’s totient function. In Appendix of [1], the authors attempted to show that the values , , and would suffice to determine . However, as indicated by Prof. Kevin Ford in a personal email communication, this would contradict a plausible conjecture in analytic number theory.
3 The Fields Generated by the Projective Torsion
Points
For simplicity, we write and . We have seen that
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so .
Theorem 5**.**
The field is closed under taking cube roots.
Proof.
We will show that if , then . This is trivial for . For , since contains all of the torsion points of , it also contains all of the roots of unity [5, Page 96, Corollary 8.1.1]. For , since by Theorem 2, let us consider the elliptic curve
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The third (modified) division polynomial of is
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The resolvent cubic of is
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The roots of are , so . ∎
Corollary 6**.**
All quadratic, cubic, and quartic equations are solvable in .
Example 7**.**
For any , we have , so is the smallest .
Example 8**.**
In the constructions of Theorem 1 and Remark 3, we require that
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which implies . Thus .
Another example shows that is an isogeny invariant.
Corollary 9**.**
If and are isogenous over , then .
Proof.
By [5, Page 74, Remark 4.13.2], the nonsingular model of can be defined over , which is a subfield of , so the -invariant of ,
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Thus can be obtained by solving a cubic equation with coefficients in . By Corollary 6, , and then . ∎
Corollary 10**.**
The field is Galois over . In particular, the field is Galois over .
Proof.
Take and , then . Since , Corollary 9 implies . ∎
Corollary 11**.**
If is an elliptic curve in the Weierstrass form and defined over a number field , then is a Galois field extension of .
Proof.
Take such that . By Corollary 6, , so the linear fractional transformation between and is defined over . Therefore, . ∎
Acknowledgments. The authors are grateful to Prof. Kevin Ford for indicating Remark 4. The first author was partially supported by the Russian Academic Excellence Project ‘5-100’, Simons Fellowship, and EPSRC programme grant EP/M024830. The second author was supported by the MacCracken Program offered by New York University.
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